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  There are some real beauties posted here!

  by stillin in

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  this one is worth repeating.

  it was buried in a thread and u've been thinking about it all day.. a quote from mark twain, one of my all-time heroes.. "it's easier to fool a man than it is to convince him that he has been fooled.".

  isn't that the truth....

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  Ultimate Axiom

  The greatest barrier to finding truth is believeing you already know it.
  
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  GB members quotes

  by Gorbatchov in

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  for a future project i'm searching for remarkable quotes of current and former gb members.. i've two personal, validated quotes:.

  "sprechen sie deutsch?

  " "ah, ein bisschen!

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  Ultimate Axiom

  Hi slimboyfat

  I started collecting them a few years ago, but I din't go looking for them, I just picked them up as I went along. The first group came from Rady Watters' Freeminds site (http://www.freeminds.org/) and I believe they are still there somewhere.
  
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  GB members quotes

  by Gorbatchov in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  for a future project i'm searching for remarkable quotes of current and former gb members.. i've two personal, validated quotes:.

  "sprechen sie deutsch?

  " "ah, ein bisschen!

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  Ultimate Axiom

  For some reason they didn't all appear - here's the rest...

  “If we let the brothers do this, there is no telling how far they will go.” – Henschel. (On the matter of using one’s conscience instead of rules laid down in the Watchtower).
  
  “There’s nothing here on this earth to compare with God’s organization. There’s never been anything, even in Bible times, to compare with what Jehovah has now or what he is doing.” - Barry. (At morning worship).
  
  “I’ve done a better job cleaning toilets than I did presiding at the Governing Body.” - Klein. (New boy introductory talk from the GB).
  
  “Say what you will about sign language, I still like human voices.” -. Sydlik. (At morning worship).
  
  “Frankly, you could have shot a cannon down the corridor and not hit anyone.” - Sydlik. (Discussing the Roanoke and Denver conventions that he attended, in which the hallways were reportedly clear of the usual singles dating scene).
  
  “These Circuit Overseers always end on time – I’m not used to that.” - Sydlik. (Following a Circuit Overseer’s that finished according to the schedule).
  
  “I especially liked your comment about the Society, that it’s an organization on the move. And today being the day the Governing Body meets, I hope they keep that point in mind.” - Sydlik. (At morning worship).
  
  “Now we’ll have Brother Hash-ee-moo-rah say the prayer. Oh, what’s wrong. Oh, I just got kicked by my wife under the table. Let’s have the text comments read first!” - Barber. (At morning worship).
  “So, I think of John 10:16 this morning, where it says, “I have other sheep which are not of this fold” when I see all these brothers walking in late.” - Sydlik. (At morning worship).
  
  “It’s good to know that not everyone who speaks French are fighting against Jehovah.” - Barber. (After a report from a member of the Guadeloupe Branch).
  
  “A lot of people enjoy the convention. They clap and have a wild time. Two weeks later they’ve forgotten all about it.” - Barber. (At morning worship).
  
  “When you receive a direct invitation from Jehovah through his organization, this is the place he wants you to serve [NY Bethel].” - Barr. (At morning worship).
  
  “Going to college or not may be a reflection of your faith, or lack of [it] … If you are currently going to college, why don’t you meditate in prayer on the possibility of dropping out and doing something better?” - Losch. (During a convention talk).
  
  “The Apostle Paul used an accounting term to emphasize this fact, ‘Love does not keep account of the injury’. Well here at Bethel we have a whole department that keeps account of our injuries. It’s called Risk Management.” - Losch. (At morning worship).
  
  “Just a few minutes ago I was telling Brother Barber how bad I feel. He told me that there’s always the resurrection. I would like to thank Brother Barber for his encouraging words.” - Herd. (At morning worship).
  
  “We did not allow the sisters to divorce and remarry with normal brothers. And it took many long years for the GB to make a change. If affected sisters would have prayed more we would have corrected our opinion much quicker.” – Herd. (On the subject of why it took so long for the GB to change its mind and allow women to divorce practicing homosexual husbands).
  
  “‘Jehovah, forgive me of my sins’ … [is] not good enough. She needs to be specific. … She needs to pour her heart out to Jehovah about it. And then Jehovah will help her. He’ll direct her to the elders in the congregation who can read the bible to her.” – Herd. (Giving an example in a talk about being specific in prayers to Jehovah).
  
  “Brother Russell bid Godspeed to the new venture. But did the Day Star magazine have Jehovah’s blessing? Well, have you seen a copy of it lately? I don’t think so.” - Splane. (At morning worship).
  
  “In some countries we find that young ones 10, 11, 12 are not even unbaptized publishers yet. And then we find that young ones 13, 14, 15 years old are not even baptized. And yet their parents have studied with them since infancy. Well it makes us wonder sometimes, is our teaching program really effective?” – Splane. (During a convention talk).
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  GB members quotes

  by Gorbatchov in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  for a future project i'm searching for remarkable quotes of current and former gb members.. i've two personal, validated quotes:.

  "sprechen sie deutsch?

  " "ah, ein bisschen!

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  Ultimate Axiom

  Most of them are quite old, but just in case you haven't seen them all before...

  “I don’t want you to do anything with it for the next four years except pee” - Knorr. (Giving one of his “new boy” sex talks to some new arrivals, some of whom were women).
  
  “I can replace any of you, with a 25 cent stamp” – Knorr. (Referring to Bethelites in general).
  
  “It’s good to be here on Monday, it happens about once a week.” - Swingle. (At morning worship).
  
  “So thank you Brother Couch for that announcement, it was given with sincerity and all the love in your heart. Yes time and unforeseen occurrences befall us all and especially to those with cars.” - Swingle. (At morning worship).
  
  “If you have a tendency towards ‘apostasy’, get a hobby and keep yourself busy to keep your mind off of it. Stay away from deep Bible study to determine meanings of the scriptures.” - Klein. (At morning worship).
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  Inside Scientology and Escaping the Witnesses - Mon 24th channel 5

  by not bitter in

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  thats it really.

  uk channel 5 at pm mon 24th.. maybe its already been posted but sounds interesting.

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  Ultimate Axiom

  I gave it eight out of ten, which is pretty good for a Channel 5 program. But it kind of amuses me when the professionals on cults speak of the fear factor that keeps people in a cult, and say things like, “Jehovah’s Witnesses threaten their followers, saying that if they leave they will go to hell when Armageddon comes”. It makes me wonder how much they actually know about the cults they deal with.
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  Jehovah's Witnesses Timeline To Judgement

  by Timothy X in

  1. jw
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  hi there.

  please take a moment to review the following information:.

  http://www.pdf-archive.com/2015/08/21/the-key/.

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  Ultimate Axiom

  Some things never cease to amaze me;

  • the amount of crap there is out there
  • the amount of time people spend producing it
    
  • and the amount of people that give it serious consideration
    

  Oh well, I suppose I can't talk, I once gave what the Watchtower said serious consideration and wasted half my life as a result.
  
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  Skinny jeans given health warning

  by Ultimate Axiom in

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  looks like am ii might have a point - skinny jeans can cause serious damage to nerves and muscles, doctors have warned.

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  http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-33238110.

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  Ultimate Axiom

  Looks like AM II might have a point - Skinny jeans can cause serious damage to nerves and muscles, doctors have warned.

  http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-33238110
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  Summer Convention at Twickenham now gone, UK

  by jookbeard in

  1. watchtower
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  i believe this is the first year that the uk wont have a summer dc at this historical old rugby stadium (which is now one of the finest arenas in the uk) the costs to rent it must be astronomical these days, and it appears they are having multiple dates at the excel arena in london plus milton keynes is being used , many memories for me from a baby onwards making the yearly trip there, the dusty old stadium, the long walks to the car parks, working on the field security, getting burnt to a crisp or being poured on, binoculars !

  food tickets, meeting at the lion gates checking the talent, and on the final day drinking the local pub dry the barny arms, end of an era!

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  Ultimate Axiom

  JB - The Wembley assembly was an international, so no Twickers DC anyway. And that was in 69, the year before I swallowed it all and got baptized. I only remember one DC being at Chrystal Palace, several years later. I left in 80, so there may have been others since then.
  
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  Summer Convention at Twickenham now gone, UK

  by jookbeard in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i believe this is the first year that the uk wont have a summer dc at this historical old rugby stadium (which is now one of the finest arenas in the uk) the costs to rent it must be astronomical these days, and it appears they are having multiple dates at the excel arena in london plus milton keynes is being used , many memories for me from a baby onwards making the yearly trip there, the dusty old stadium, the long walks to the car parks, working on the field security, getting burnt to a crisp or being poured on, binoculars !

  food tickets, meeting at the lion gates checking the talent, and on the final day drinking the local pub dry the barny arms, end of an era!

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  Ultimate Axiom

  I remember Twickers very well too. But there was one year, back in the 70s, when there was no DC at Twickenham (can't remember the reason, but probably money). I had to make the pilgrimage from North London over to Chrystal Palace, which was a right pain.
  
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  Do or did the JW's believe dinosaurs were vegetarians?

  by Crazyguy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i thought at one time or maybe they still do believe that the dinosaurs were vegetarians?

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  Ultimate Axiom

  When the dinosaurs had fulfilled their purpose, God ended their life. But the Bible is silent on how he did that or when.

  Oddly enough, it's also silent on "whether" he did it - but let's not let truth get in the way of our beliefs.